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Robert Farrell's avatar

Agree on the two areas the expert overstepped, he really seems to be unable to help himself and is laying it on really thick.

97/40 in a patient in pain would catch my eye. It should be rechecked and discussed in the MDM. It might be as simple as "BP is low normal, lower than I would expect w her discomfort but she takes beta-blockers and the BP today is similar to the BPs recorded on her last two visits."

ACS is possible, but PE and dissection would also be high on my differential.

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I've always thought of thoracic back pain as a trap. The differential diagnosis is broad, and reflexively concluding MSK cause is risky, as this case clearly shows. I can "reproduce" trapezius muscle tenderness, just as I can reproduce costochondral joint tenderness, but that doesn't mean I'm diagnosing costochondritis in everyone I see with chest pain. Not even close.

IMO, discharging a pt in 6-10 minutes is just plain bad practice. the NP clearly didn't adequately assess the patient. I'm not saying that no diagnostics were needed, but the whole chart is cringeworthy. I've reviewed plenty of these in M&M-poor documentation and shoddy care in the setting of a patient with soft vitals, high pain scale, and a complaint that suggests the need for more than a cursory evaluation.

Let's also point out that template charting and EMRs make this so much worse. you can make a chart look like you did a thorough assessment when in reality the opposite happened.

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