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Mary Katherine Parker's avatar

I don't understand why vital signs were not collected at each visit. They're painless (for the most part), non-invasive, and offer great insight into a patient's condition---especially when trended over time. It seems that vital signs don't get any respect.

One of the best journal articles I have shared with others is "Make Vital Signs Great Again." In the hospital, we have several early warning systems (NEWS, PEWS, MEWS)----but they don't work if staff don't enter the vital signs, and they're definitely not helpful when staff "batch" the vital signs after they finally have a breather at 2 in the morning. Unfortunately, when they go to draw labs at 4 in the morning, the patient is in rigor.

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Speaking of carvedilol pharmacokinetics, one point that isn't mentioned is it's metabolism is mostly hepatic and there is a large amount of first pass metabolism so it's possible that in someone with severe liver dysfunction (which it sounds like he may have had depending on how high the INR was) you can have supratherapeutic levels even if it was otherwise indicated

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