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Thomas Benzoni's avatar

First, I acknowledge the horror we feel at the death of a person by PROXIMATE action. This is what we commonly call Suicide (self-death, for the Latin survivors.) I've seen plenty and enough. These are likely not truly preventable by physicians as much as we like to self-aggrandize. Witness the increase in suicides despite increasing mental health outreach. This is likely a societal problem about which we can advise but not fix. "Deaths of despair" are not amenable to our ministrations. (This is another whole discussion, I recommend Viktor Frankl and Albert Camus. Read them then come back.)

Strangely, we don't feel the revulsion/reaction at the much more common self-killing: tobacco, alcohol, poor life choices. Instead, we "blame the victim." The only difference is proximity, not cause.

In my not-very-humble opinion, we need a little more humility. We need to start a discussion on self-determination and respect for self-determination.. This absolutely does not mean we abandon the high position of seeing, advising and treating people wanting help. However, we need to acknowledge that, unless we are willing to take these patients home with us, live in our homes, use our bathrooms and kitchens, we have limited (at best) control over the outcomes.

The right of self-determination and, ultimately, knowingly taking responsibility for the consequences (whatever they be: refuse vaccination and accept the disease the the transmission thereof, jaywalk irresponsibly, smoke, use substances, not take prescribed meds, etc., etc.) is, in the end, respect for the individual.

We, as a profession, need to have a hard discussion.

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Zac Robinson's avatar

Very much agree with Thomas above.

I was just talking with a resident last night about how difficult suicide risk stratification is and therefore how difficult it is to teach. The evidence for specific risk factors is murky at best, the evidence that any of our interventions are particularly effective is probably worse, and the patients who are the highest risk are not going to seek help and are going to obfuscate if forced to do so.

All this leads to a situation where your actual risk assessment is largely based on vibes and everything else is just trying to protect yourself legally. And unfortunately we've created a system where there is strong incentive to take patients' rights away in a way that can follow them for life in order to administer questionably effective treatment just to cover ourselves from liability.

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